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Laura Nguyen

Thanks Ben for posting about this! I absolutely agree with you on each and every word choice. Rhetoric in the LGBT community is critical to creating an inclusive conversation ... or joining in that conversation. For communicators, we understand the strength in words. It's our responsibility to generate awareness.

Adam

At work, I offer the following example when educating our leaders:
- chocolate vs vanilla is a preference
- boxers vs briefs is a choice
- vegetarianism is a lifestyle
All interesting terms, but completely different from sexual orientation.

Also, examples of sexual preference:
- frequently
- vanilla
- in superhero costumes

Bart

Agreed on most of these. The friend one gets a little murky with some people who are not officially out, no matter how blazingly obvious it may seem to the rest of us. I once yelled out to a lesbian friend "say hi to Melissa for me" and she visibly blanched like it was a faux pas.

People introduce heterosexual folks with ambiguous status as "friends" of all the time. The standard colloquy is this is so and so's friend, actually she is my girlfriend. That's the way it works.

Otherwise I think this is an insightful and informative list.

Gay List Daily

Love it - I'm giving a speech to a group of PR folks tonight and I'm going to read directly from your post (and give you credit, of course!). Good stuff!

One item, in particular, made me laugh. My dad still calls my partner of nearly 11 years (with whom I have two kids) my "friend." It's more amusing to me than insulting, only because I know how uncomfortable it makes him to even acknowledge the situation at all.

Gay List Daily

Just thought of another example where your list plays perfectly...

I'm on the board of directors for a local arts charity. The day before we were flying out to California to pick up our daughter, one of the other board members came up to me and said, "I'm so excited for you! Homosexuals make some of the best parents!"

She meant so well, and I did appreciate that she even made the effort to be supportive. At the same time, the comment was tarnished slightly for me by her word choice. (Or was it a word preference?!)

Queercents

Great list. I rarely see "friend" used in this context in print, but apparently it's alive and well in retirement communities.

We were visiting my partner's 80-year-old aunt over the weekend and she introduced me to her neighbors as my partner's friend. Of course, at the same time they met our son and obviously were very aware that he was "our" son, so I found her word choice to be peculiar.

One other word that I've never thought worked is this idea of sharing a "community" with people I have never actually met. Just because I'm a lesbian, I'm a member of the LGBT community.

Jake

Use the term "HETEROSEXUAL-ONLY MARRIAGE" to describe our opposition. It is the most appropriate since it describes what they want.

Larry Goldsmith

I *choose* to live my life as an out, open gay man, in my own particular way. It is my *preference*. Saying or implying that we deserve equal rights just because we were "born that way" or "can't help being this way" or are "genetically programmed this way" or that "our brains are wired this way" is offensive to me, and it is a pathetically weak argument for our rights and autonomy. Obviously sexuality is not chosen in quite the same way we choose to wear the red or the blue shirt--to paraphrase an old philosopher, we choose our sexuality, but we do not choose it just as we please. But if we did, would we not still be deserving of the freedom to make that choice, and the right to enjoy it?

Guido

Ben, thanks a lot for this very valuable post. For my part there is not a lot to add. Just point me out that the "choice" aspect in its various forms (such as lifestyle, preference, etc.) is really the (global) fundamental point anyone talking about LGBT has to understand. If one internalizes that being LGBT has nothing to do with a free-will decision, then addressing "our community" will almost automatically be done in an acceptable fashion. The other point very important point you made was about "tolerance" vs. "acceptance".

Thanks again for the list!

Louise

Whilst I accept your points, I think your article is very negative and full of subject points of view. It might have been more helpful to provide suggestions for alternative words and phrases that you do find acceptable.

queerunity

Great posting, I tried emailing you unsuccessfully to make sure it was ok to re-post this (with credit to you of course) on my blog.
http://queersunited.blogspot.com/2009/08/eight-words-and-phrases-to-avoid-in.html

apavyc

I agree with Louise. This post is a bit like the U.S. Republicans complaining but not giving an alternate plan on health care or you name it. In your next post, can you please tell us what IS ok...the best phrases to use, etc. Give us current good-lingo; it's not fair to criticize and then not tell us what is preferred. I want to be supportive (and thought I was), but I can't be supportive without your help, and most people will be less enthusiastic about their support if those they support are being condescending (as your post may make some people feel). Please be patient with those of us who would like to be supportive; we're trying to help...don't turn us off.

Thanks. I look forward to your next post.

george

ben i really enjoyed this post - it brought me up to date on what terms are still being used, and it reminded me that i seldom hear some of them at all anymore, which is a victory.
i agree in part with apavyc in her stance that it would be beneficial to let people know how to help and, in so doing, use the proper terminology.
after all, there may be things on an agenda, but we don't have an "agenda" per se. and what's the lifestyle really - we all live our lives, whether gay, lesbian, straight, etc. yes there are flamboyant gay men and there are macho gay men - are they living the "gay lifestyle" in the same way?
anyway, thanks much for the insightful piece, and i know i will miss you too...only got started reading you recently too.

bridgeout

Thank you so much for this post! I have posted several times on this theme, but not this concisely in one space. I have linked to you here and share these 8 words/phrases. The more folks who can read and understand this... the better!

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